Friday, July 06, 2007

Tom Tomorrow on Healthcare/Cons

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excellent. This hits damn near every talking point they have.

Larry said...

Good clip.

GreenSmile said...

On the other hand, do any of you have a doctor whom who see regularly or who, via your HMO, you think of as "your" doctor? I saw and urged others to see Sicko...but I also asked a doctor what he thought of the movie. He claims the horror stories were rare occurences. Clearly, none of us seem to looking at the same set of facts.

[I don't have to buy Moore as a reliable source to be troubled by the questions he poses: why can't we deliver as much health care for as little money as those "socialized medicine" countries?. They guy has a point.]

Jude Nagurney Camwell said...

greensmile,

I know too many people who've had similar horror stories to discount the common nature of the experience displayed by so many who appeared in in Sicko. I can understand why the insurance lobby and the doctors' lobby would steer us away from believing our own eyes. I choose my own eyes.

Chancelucky said...

We're Kaiser members in California and we do have a personal doctor and I have a personal specialist for a recurring medical problem.

Just yesterday I heard a story from a neighbor who died at age 27 essentially because he had no health insurance.It's anecdotal I know, but it isn't that rare. I know a lot of people who know someone....

GreenSmile said...

I guess the lesson we should be taking here, whatever the stats, is that we have an unjust system...it really should not be tolerated that some of us are well insured and cared for and some of us just die for want of routine care.

[I have coverage under two employers and am surrounded by teaching hospitals I am doing great, what are y'all griping about?]

Anonymous said...

He claims the horror stories were rare occurences. Clearly, none of us seem to looking at the same set of facts.

Really now?

I hauled my father into the ER because he couldn't urinate. They gave him some medicine and sent him out. 2 hours later I was back, and Dad was at the end of the queue; I had to become real nasty to get him moved up to the front and catheterized, which was probably slightly before his bladder would have burst.

I, myself, was sent home with a little phenergan for what turned out to be a bowel obstruction. I too wound up back, and stayed for 45 days. Don't tell me about how "rare" these stories are.

Jude Nagurney Camwell said...

Mike Achslarg, I can't even entertain the comment you deposited on my blog because I see it as little more than the by-product of a beast depositing fumit as he walks the forest. You're one of those haters of a label that you've slapped onto a entire group of hominids as if every one of those hominds thinks in lockstep. You had to deposit your fecal matter someplace, and you decided randomly that my blog looked like a good place.

If I thought you'd deposited your fumit...errr..I mean if I thought that you'd made your comment with the slightest bit of good faith and intellectual honesty, I'd engage you. I simply don't know how (and don't care to learn) to address this pile of dung you left for me to deal with.